In this episode, recorded at the end of 2019, I chat to Marisa Carnesky about working class beginnings, her being compelled to be a Show woman from the age of 10 and how hard it can be furrowing out a career when you can't be pigeon holed easily.  We have a good rant about the "Good Old Days", when arts funding was more readily available and discussed how important it is to have diverse voices in the arts.  We all talk about the catharsis of performance. Marisa is an Olivier award winning show woman  interested in the use of spectacle; fairground rides, magic illusions and grand ritual as a means of creating highly accessible provocative work, rooted in popular culture that promotes cultural and political discourses.Find out more about here fascinating work here:  Carnesky Productions